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Jewish Culture, Revelation and Continuity

The Pew survey, like the various more specific surveys of the Jewish community that come out from time to time, has told everyone in the Jewish organizational world what they already know. There is nothing in the survey that hasn't been predicted, belabored and denied for decades. If its meaning had to be summed up in a single sentence, it would be that there can be no religion without revelation, no community without culture and no continuity without all of these.

It really is that simple which is why so many insist on making it so complicated.

What the Pew survey really says is that there are really two Jewish communities in America. One that is an actual structured community and the other uses that name but is a community in name only. Most of the responses go right past that obvious point to arguing about semantics, theology and the number of Jews who can dance on the head of a pin.

Daniel Gordis had a passionate and moving piece on the decline of Conservative Judaism that is also fundamentally wrong.

Gordis states, "What really doomed the movement is that Conservative Judaism ignored the deep existential human questions that religion is meant to address." That confuses religion with philosophy. Religion does address existential questions, but it does so through faith.

The F-word, "Faith" only appears once in Gordis' entire essay. "Non-Orthodox Judaism is simply disappearing in America. Judaism has long been a predominantly content-driven, rather than a faith-driven enterprise, but we now have a generation of Jews secularly successful and well-educated, but so Jewishly illiterate that nothing remains to bind them to their community or even to a sense that they hail from something worth preserving."

Gordis hits the point and then drives away as quickly as he can. American Judaism is content-driven, but its content has to be driven by faith or the content has no integrity.

"Looming unasked in Conservative circles is the following question: Can one create a community committed to the rigors of Jewish traditional living without a literal (read Orthodox) notion of revelation at its core? Conservative Judaism could have been the movement that made an argument for tradition and distinctiveness without a theological foundation that is for most modern Jews simply implausible," Gordis writes.

The Pew survey already answers that question. Religion without revelation has no integrity of content. Without revelation, religion is mere philosophy. If the religion is not of divine origin, then it's merely philosophy. And you don't build a community around concepts only a fraction of its people would be interested in or understand.

Religion without revelation is random intellectual inquiry packaged as something more. Without a Divine core, it is reduced to searching for the "divine in all of us". If there is no G-d who spoke to man and conveyed specific words, instructions and ideas, then all that remains is an aimless spirituality that provides no reason for maintaining the specific integrity of a community around it.

Gordis' remedy is "deep existential and spiritual seriousness". And no doubt this will appeal to divinity students. But you can't build a religion around that. Not even in a community as literate as those to be found within American Judaism. "Deep existential and spiritual seriousness" is surprisingly boring when you have to actually sit through it. It's not particularly engaging.

"While these laypeople were busy seeking a way to explain to their children why marrying another Jew matters, how a home rooted in Jewish ritual was enriching, and why Jewish literacy still mattered in a world in which there were no barriers to Jews’ participating in the broader culture, their religious leadership was speaking about whether or not the movement was halakhic or how one could speak of revelation in an era of biblical criticism," Gordis says.

But if your laypeople are trying to figure out why these things matter, then your religious stream has already failed. In Orthodox Judaism, most laypeople are not trying to figure out how to explain these things; they take them for granted. It's in the air they breathe and the water they drink. Likewise, they aren't looking for serious existential answers. They absorb them early on and take them on faith.

That's between a religion that is so embedded that it's culture and a religion that is swimming upstream against culture.

If you dispense with Divine revelation, then all you have left is culture and community. You might be able to build a community around culture. American Jews have done so. But the culture depended on eroding differences. The more those differences eroded, the more American Jewish culture just became the Jewish contribution to America.

You don't need to be Jewish to read and appreciate Bernard Malamud, Saul Bellow and all the other big names. You don't need to be Jewish to watch a Neil Simon play. And their contemporaries who appeal to American Jews in their twenties and thirties either tend to be so cynical and toxic that they make Philip Roth seem downright Judeopositive or detached enough that they represent little except echoes of distant memories.

No one is going to stay Jewish for Michael Chabon and Jonathan Safran Foer. Despite their tattered drabs of Jewish culture, they're less Jewish than their literary forebears who at least had a direct connection with the culture of the immigrants. And when you've exhausted Jewish-influenced memoir fiction, what's left? YIVO Yiddish revivals? The Klezmatics? Documentaries about Jewish life in the twenties? Jerry Seinfeld? Another revival of Fiddler on the Roof with a more positive take on intermarriage? A Woody Allen retrospective?

The public secular Jewish culture of neurotic humor is common property. It doesn't maintain communities. It more often disintegrates them. It's laughing at the abyss by people who no longer remember why the abyss is a bad thing. From a defensive response to pain, Jewish humor has become nihilistic. It no longer remembers the pain it is laughing at and so its laughter has become senseless.

Culture is a powerful means of continuity when it is immersive.

The Orthodox child doesn't play with Dr. Seuss picture books. She plays with picture books that illustrate the importance of doing good deeds. Instead of being taught nursery rhymes, she's taught to chant Brachot; blessings to thank G-d for the food that she eats. The music she listens to and the cartoons she watches will also teach her religious values.

Then she'll graduate to pop music that will consist of biblical verses set to catchy tunes. The Orthodox Jewish music industry is big business. It encompasses most modern music and often casually borrows tunes from popular music (though in all fairness, much of popular music does the same thing) and sets it to religious devotions or sayings.

While her secular Jewish counterpart hums a Lady Gaga song, she's humming, "The G-d who created joy and happiness" or "Oh Lord, open my lips so that my mouth may sing your praises." The music may not be all that different. But the ideas are very much so.

When she reads? It's less likely to be 50 Shades of Grey because there are Orthodox comics, mystery novels, teenage detectives (of both genders), biographies, historical novels, romance novels, self-help books, novels and the whole variety of alternative literature.

I won't claim that this Orthodox popular culture is of a high caliber; but then neither is the popular culture that it's displacing.

That's not to say that pop culture doesn't still penetrate Orthodox communities; but it does so to a lesser degree depending on the cultural integrity of the community. Modern Orthodox Jews like me are more likely to be familiar with both worlds. On the other end of the spectrum, Chassidic Jews may even reject the Orthodox pop music as inappropriate, opting for something more classical.

Communities also require private languages. Instead of empty Yiddish revivals, in much of the Orthodox Jewish world, a form of Judeo-English has arisen that is the counterpart of the Judeo-German known as Yiddish, the Judeo-Spanish known as Ladino or the Judeo-Aramaic of the Talmud or the Judeo-Arabic that Maimonides wrote in.

Derived from the language of scholarship, "Yeshivish" is a jargon full of inside jokes and wry humor referencing the techniques of study and the practices of the religion. It mixes Hebrew and Yiddish to create a new language.

The common denominator in all these things, from the religious pop songs, to the novels, which inevitably have religious morals built in, and the language, which is built around religious values, is that they integrate the assumptions of faith into daily life. They make religion into culture. And they make faith into culture.

The Orthodox Jew casually says "G-d willing" and "Thank G-d" to everything; inculcating the assumptions of faith into daily life. That used to be a common habit among Jews in Europe.

The hypothetical girl may still end up leaving, but she's less likely to do so because she is part of a community with its own culture and values. And even its own language. She's not there for the deep existential seriousness. The seriousness has always been a part of her life. But it's overlaid with a private cultural language that encompasses the everyday communal experience.

Faith isn't an external assumption imposed on her everyday life that is foreign to it. Faith is her culture. It's not expressed in high-flown language of sermons, but in the everyday language of her life.

To emerging generations of liberal Jews, their own religion is foreign to them. They have to conquer the instinctive skepticism bred into them by a secular culture to be part of it. Orthodox Jews have to conquer an instinctive skepticism of secular culture to leave. And that's a major difference.

Orthodox Judaism in America would have failed all over again, as it did before WW2, without the creation of a cultural community that could speak to young people. Its leaders put the emphasis on the construction of an educational complex, and indeed that is very important, but Modern Orthodoxy shows that an educational system that doesn't permeate into the home environment is more fragile.

And these solutions are not unique.

Evangelical Christianity has its own set of songs, novels and cartoons with the same goal; the maintenance of an immersive moral culture that makes a religious community viable in a secular culture.

Any liberal streams of Judaism that reject the premise that a community is maintained through an exclusive culture and that religion is built on faith in revelation cannot survive. And they can't duplicate Orthodox Judaism's success without adopting those assumptions.

Liberal Judaism discarded the idea that Jews were a race. Then discarded the idea that Judaism represented a unique Divine revelation. Then discarded communal exclusivity and integrity.

With those three things thrown away; what possible basis for continuity can there be?

If Jews are not part of a single family, as the Bible specifies, and only a religion, then why not intermarry as long as the other partner adopts the religion or works out some joint arrangement? If Judaism does not possess an exclusive revelation from G-d, then why stick with it because of an accident of birth into a people that is nothing more than a cultural community?

And if Jewish culture consists of novels that anyone can take out at the library, Woody Allen movies  eating Chinese food on Christmas, questioning things and talking a lot with your hands; why bother maintaining a culture that anyone can be a part of and that, therefore, no one needs to be a part of?

The racial, religious and communal reasons for maintaining the Jewish people are interwoven. You can't discard one without toppling the whole thing. And if you discard all three, then you certainly aren't going to keep it going with a copy of the The Yiddish Policemen's Union and an interfaith Passover seder with passages commemorating civil rights and LGBT liberation.

The liberalizing fallacy has been that each generation could make concessions to modernism by discarding some things that "no modern person takes seriously anyway" while assuming that the next generation would want to keep the things that they kept, instead of throwing away more things to adapt to a modernity that was continually becoming more hostile to traditional religious values.

Eventually throwing things away became Liberal Judaism. And that Judaism became the nothingness it sought to be. The liberal impulse made that Judaism into liberalism, its synagogues into community activist groups and its theology into social justice. Its Rabbis excelled at the language of moral seriousness; but like all Western liberal clergy they had nothing to be morally serious about.

"As Conservative writers and rabbis addressed questions such as 'are we halakhic,' 'how are we halakhic,' and 'should we be halakhic,' most of the women and men in the pews responded with an uninterested shrug. They were not in shul, for the most part, out of a sense of legally binding obligation. Had that been what they were seeking, they would have been in Orthodox synagogues. They had come to worship because they wanted a connection to their people, to transcendence, to a collective Jewish memory that would give them cause for rejoicing and reason for weeping, and they wanted help in transmitting that to their children," Gordis writes.

No doubt they did indeed want those things. But you can't have those things without binding obligations.

Connections come from binding obligations, not casual ones. To cry and be happy, you need an emotional connection that is more than just an event of convenience. Peoplehood, like marriage, must be forever if it is to mean anything at all.

People who casually want deep spiritual experiences and community will never find them without making permanent commitments.

Judaism is a commitment of faith. It is a religious civilization upheld by an ancient family that builds its phantom kingdoms of faith in every place of its wanderings and then packs them up again into its invisible knapsack of faith. That is its culture and its meaning.

The Jew exists because of faith. Without faith, there are no Jews. Without faith, there are only archeologists of Judaism poring through the ruins and bones of what used to be a religion and wondering how they can make it live again.

Without faith, culture and community have no meaning. Without integrity of culture and community, faith has no means of maintaining its expression.

Faith is not grappling with difficult existential questions. It is best expressed in the dialogue between the Prophet Ezekiel and G-d. "And He said unto me: 'Son of man, can these bones live?' And I answered: 'O Lord GOD, Thou knowest." (Ezekiel 37:3)

And so faith answers its own question.

That is the essential humility that is the true character of the prophet. Liberal streams of Judaism claim to focus on prophetic value of social justice. But the calls of the prophets for justice did not come from them. They came from G-d. In their natural state they were humble men, like Moses, who did not strive to impose their will on others, but waited to hear what G-d would tell them to do.

That humility of action is faith. And without that humility, there is no room for faith or G-d.

Consider this discourse from Kaufmann Kohler, a Reform Rabbi from a century ago. "The issue
today is no longer between Reform and Orthodox, but between a world with G-d and a world without G-d. How, then can the destinies of home and communities, the guardianship of souls and the future of humanity be entrusted to men who, in a time when the foundations of morality are shaken and the peace of the world quivers under the fierce contest of ideas, lack power and principle, wavering and oscillating between agnosticism and belief, between Judaism and Unitarianism and a dozen other isms?"

Having said all that, Kohler then went on to argue that Judaism was just the shell for a kernel of ethical and moral truth and that the essence of religion was social justice. But one does not need religion to propound social justice. That is something that Kohler's successors know, but are unable to do anything about because their religion is the common modern secular faith of political activism.

There is no prophetic vision without G-d. The prophetic vision of movements that have abandoned G-d is nothing but men who have made themselves into gods, prophesying their own prophecies.

Kohler indicted Orthodox Jews for failing to "impart life to the dry bones of Judaism". But life comes from faith. That is the essence of the Ezekiel prophecy that Kohler went right past in the search for prophetic social justice. The issue is still between a world with G-d and a world without Him.

The Pew survey makes it clear that the future of the Jewish community belongs to those who build communities based on a world with G-d whose leaders and people don't waver in their beliefs.

The Judaism of those who trade the birthright of faith for the pottage of social justice has no future. Judaism is not the kernel for a handful of ethical concepts. Its ethical concepts are part of it just as its community, its religion, its culture and its people must be one organic entity.

Comments

  1. Anonymous25/11/13

    So called cultural Judaism is really euro-supremacism. None of it makes sense on its own. It lives in fear of anything that is not New York and LA within America and is absolutely sure that what anyone in Europe thinks has to be taken absolutely seriously. It failed to connect with Sephardim and Jews from the Soviet Union. It offered nothing and ran in fear from the challenge. It demanded from Israel that it be an accepted form of Judaism but it could only legislate it. It couldn't make it so in actual fact. In fear it ran from Israel and denounced it.

    The odd thing about cultural Jews is that they are very keen on and correct about Orthodox social hypocrisies but they love to recreate secular versions of it. Don't like how Yeshivas can become ends to themselves and who you are is where you went? No problem. We can go to the right colleges. Don't like having to keep kosher but still want to seem morally superior? No problem. Be seen in the right restaurants or have the right health foods. Non-orthodox Judaism died because it couldn't adopt to individuals. It is only a collection of attitudes.

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  2. Anonymous25/11/13

    Thank you for this excellent article. I grew up believing and still believe that without faith in Divine revelation and the convenant between G-d and Abraham, one could not be a Jew. Far too many supposed Jews are nothing more than Esaus who have cheated their progeny out of this priceless birthright.

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  3. There's groups of "progressive" Christians doing something similiar. Saying there is no reason a pastor cannot be an atheist.

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  4. “Faith is not belief without proof, but trust without reservation.” Elton Trueblood

    “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

    There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, "All right, then, have it your way." C.S. Lewis

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  5. I won't claim that this Orthodox popular culture is of a high caliber; but then neither is the popular culture that it's displacing.


    This is something I've been agonizing over for decades now (wow!) as I watch my children grow up, and I think you have summed it up exceedingly well. I probably have yet to read a 'frum' novel from cover to cover, but I think they have their place, and I have hope that they will improve and become more realistic.

    A very important article.

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  6. As usual, this is a masterpiece from beginning to end. You are doing important work.
    Thanks for putting so many crucial concepts into words for us.

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  7. Anonymous26/11/13

    My husband is a mostly secular Jew. That is to say that he respects Jewish tradition and believes in God. As a lifelong Catholic, I see him idling in neutral, as far as religion goes, although he enjoys attending Catholic services connected to events on my side of the family. He admires the pageantry, perhaps confusing religious expression and tradition with show business, but that is for him to decipher, if he so chooses.
    At any rate, during a long and happy marriage, I have attended many events connected to the Jewish faith or just happy occasions for our Jewish friends.
    One event in particular stands out, and I have never been able to fully unpack that specific suitcase: at a lovely and merry 50th anniversary party for dear friends, the host gave a toast, which singled out a few attendees that the hosts considered 'special' in their lives. I was singled out as their wonderful Irish Catholic friend..While I was flattered at being mentioned by the host, a Survivor, whom I dearly loved, I was saddened at his assumption that a non Jew could love him and his wife, or even want to be their friend. My admiration for this couple is based on their warmth, character, humor and dozens of other reasons why people love one another. I wonder if after decades of friendship and socializing, perhaps we still were strangers to one another in some basic fashion.?
    Yet they took it on faith that my husband thought the world of them, which he did and does ?
    I know for a fact that there are some Jews in our crazy quilt circle of friends and family that my spouse is not crazy about, and I am pretty sure the feeling is mutual.
    I do understand the mystery of tribalism, as I tend to enjoy all things Celtic, but have never thought to question why someone outside the clan would want to be my friend, or I, theirs. We are all children of G..D after all... I will continue to ponder this.

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  8. The mystery of iniquity. The mystery of repair. Seems to be above most everyone's paygrade. Entire worlds rise and fall by that certain Something that hides in the bones, and the blood. Even the ones that carry out certain commands through faith probably wonder, sometimes. Revelation and profit are not a wise business model in this damned War. Mad prophets leave the desert a bit greener, and wander off for more challenges. Revealed iniquity, and repair, there is maybe still some gentle humor, and mercy, being blown about in the flyover country.

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  9. Anonymous26/11/13

    Religion dies out when its membership compromise faith and belief.
    Marrying out is a death sentence for Judaism.

    by the way, comments is broken. It will only accept anonymous comments right now

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  10. "I won't claim that this Orthodox popular culture is of a high caliber; but then neither is the popular culture that it's displacing."

    I will claim that it is, however light years better than the popular culture.

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  11. Anonymous27/11/13

    amen brother, faith is life

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  12. Traditional Judaism is a unified whole whose parts are all essential and all coordinated to point us toward G-d's desired goal. Modern sectarians pick and choose, building fragile structures with missing parts or parts that don't fit or parts that make other parts not function---all a reflection of consumer society as opposed to a G-d centered society.

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  13. Hmmmm. The Judaism of my childhood was Reform, although it was decidedly different than the Reform Judaism of today in ways both good and bad. I am married to a man who's family hails from Cincinnati, although he was raised in California, and he has a certain Reform Yichus, and very much misses what another relative calls "solemn high Reform," and I understand why he does. There was in the time of our childhoods, a sense of ethical monotheism, with an emphasis on the monotheism, that is mostly gone from Reform. It has been replaced by a crazy quilt of practices, the choice of which appears to have no rhyme or reason to those of us in the pews.

    Together, my husband and I practice a much more traditional Judaism in our home than either of us was raised with. Both of us have many criticisms of the trajectory of Reform Judaism, and indeed of "liberal" Judaism away from religious practice and into the practice of socialist politics. At the same time, we recognize that "Orthodoxy" as it is practiced now has its own problems, and that it is not the varied and rich culture(s) of Judaism that thrived in Europe before the Shoah. In fact, it has become narrow and mean-spirited in many of its expressions, with a rigid adherence to a set of selected rules from a few sources. If liberal Judaism has succumbed to the idolatry of social justice, then orthodoxy has succumbed to Talmud idolatry, mistaking the nature of the text, which is the Great Conversation of Jewish Culture down through the generations. These are generalizations of the different Jewish expressions as they exist today. But they are not sects, because the vast majority of Jews who identify across these divides still recognize each other as Jews, as part of one people.

    I think American Jewry is suffering from the loss of the rich Jewish culture that existed in pre-Shoah Europe. We are a remnant of that culture that found refuge on these shores, and we are still in mourning for what was destroyed. I think that there is a hole in our relationship with G-d, with Torah, and with each other, and therefore, we cling to certain practices and ideas ripped out of context, like flotsam and jetsam, in a dangerously unpredictable ocean. We are still in shock, still unable to see what the Eternal has in store for us in the future.

    I would remind you--and everyone who sees fit to criticize Jews who do not practice as you do--that this must happen with a sincere love of our fellow Jews, and the memory that we all stood at Sinai together. Although there is much to be concerned about with our people in America, and it is right to discuss and consider these things, we are still beset, and in mourning for a great loss.

    Although we are not Hasids, and have some grave issues with the Lubavitchers when it comes down to the idolization of rebbes, my huband and I admire their Chabad House approach to the service of their fellow Jews, in which they encourage just one more mitzvah out of the most secular Jews. We do not have to embrace their whole approach to Judaism to see the value that they place on each Jew, each mitzvah. That is what we endeavor to do in our own practice, and in our relationship with our fellow Jews, as exasperating as we can be with each other.

    And one more thing that I take comfort in is that our rabbis taught that G-d says this to us: You can forget me, if only you remember my Torah, for my Torah will bring you back to me.

    This relationship of a difficult people with our difficult G-d is never static, and I doubt it will ever be simple. But I don't think either party to the covenant is really ready to give up on it, and never will be. For some of us, it is just too intense, but most of us all still standing at Sinai.

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  14. Elisheva, every criticism you are making about Orthodoxy of today, are identical to the criticisms of the secular Jews towards pre-war Torah Judaism.

    The Talmud, is not a "great conversation" it is the Torah SheBaal Peh written down. It is the written will of Hashem. Not suggestions. I understand this is frightening. But if our people are to continue it will only be by clinging to Hashem. Even if we fail in following the 613 Mitzvot, it is only by accepting their divinity that we have a future.

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  15. Anonymous28/11/13

    I take an issue with Greenfield, not in support of Gordis’ s analysis but because Greenfield is basically biased in how it sees Judaism.
    He writes: “American Judaism is content-driven, but its content has to be driven by faith or the content has no integrity”
    But what he ignores is the paradox that is at the center of the Religious manifest: i.e. There is a revelation… it is complex and in a language and science that I do not understand but…. my lack of understanding is bridged by the fact that my clan, my parents, their parents and their parent’s parents told me that it is so…. and since my parents are neither fools nor do they want to lie to me, a’ la tooth fairy, I trust that it is true, even if it is hidden from me. So my faith is ultimately in my family, its values and continuity and in the model for my own preservation embedded in this ideal, i.e. my own family will value me and my imprint on it. And I will rule in it like a mini clan-chief, preserving a lifestyle - based existentially on these very misunderstood values because of the benefit I see in it. And so, the faith is family driven in a worthwhile story, which we want to believe in and which is worthwhile, even if it is not proven that it is NOT made by us. And by the way, it’s not a bad life style to belong to this clan, it’s community and its continuity, even if it is dangerous. Proof is that all revolutions killed their original makers, but they were willing to give their life for ‘something’ and this is certainly the quintessential ‘thing’. So by living in accordance with its cords, providing that I benefit from it through the preservation of my own clan (going along with the Darwinian evolution survival theory), Judaism is a large enough sand box for a rich and never exhausted life.
    So where do I find Greenfield mistaken is that if religion is only faith based, then we are talking about Kabalists and other super spiritual or fanatic small groups.
    The truth is that Judaism in is Family based. And Jews are trying to find new ways to preserve their Jewish family with the Torah in value rather than an decree.
    If this is such, the question is if it can survive. And it will survive only if it’s supported by other circumstances besides anti-Semitism, and the world’s refusal to let us assimilate.
    The answer is basically in Israel.
    Israel is the new ‘holly sea’, in a different way than the papal seat is, i.e. – it is not centralized or controlled by doctrine from above, but in sense, if Israel will continue to represent a Jewish element in its core essence, then Judaism will remain evident in whatever final balance it evolves (or devolves to), but if Israel becomes another Belgium, then Judaism as a large fundamental religion will be reduced to its extreme elements only, which will dwindle as their descendants are absorbed into the new world of productive existence, where there will be no philanthropy or government supported Religious institutions.
    So I leave the judgment to you! Is Judaism a Torah faith based or is it a family life faith embellished in Torah - sometimes more, under duress, and - sometimes less, when we are accepted in society as equals.
    I think that the "The integrity of action IS the expression of faith" is true in general but the question is towards what action?
    Man, in his free will, will always chose his existential over the divine, unless pressed by circumstance or mass pressure.
    The beauty in Judaism, over the millennia is that there was little conflict between the two, thus a Jew could hold on to both, the existential and the divine at the same time.
    Basically, in today’s time, because of the vast freedoms we have, the global connection and the dependence of communication, media and technology, compounded with a semi secular Israel and being accepted within most societies, there is more conflict today between what men perceives as existential and the divine.
    That is why I challenge the idea that faith, as we knew it once, will hold majority of Jews together.
    Soli Yisrael Foger
    Englewood, NJ

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  16. The contradiction, as you've already demonstrated, doesn't exist. Faith is always a continuity unless it is invented at the moment, which means that it must be vested in a continuity for it to continue. Family is the only enduring organic form of continuity.

    The family is the core of human expression and the transmission of knowledge passes through it. As long as the family remains stable, there is no contradiction between the existential and the divine.

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  17. I subscribe to the notion that more often than not, the question is usually THE answer. And so, instead of blaming people for moving away from Faith and faith infused culture, we have to ask Why is faith not there?! If we agree that Faith is the answer, than we should inquire it's disappearance rather than blame people for diluting it. I fear that the old time's answer is not working anymore. The so called 'revelation' needs more than music and books that teach children it's magic. So do also the tooth fairy and Santa for five years old. The challenge is with finding ways to connect with teenagers and student who ask questions about science, contradictions and more without getting good answers. The old ways are gone and even guilt doesn't work anymore. The effective transmission of tradition, that was the role of the Zeide and Bubes, was relegated to Jewish institutions. And so yes; I agree that we need to infuse more faith but how is the real question.

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  18. Faith hasn't disappeared, but it flows smoothest out of a way of life. The less religious the life lived, the bigger the challenges to faith.

    The old ways live on and the values hold true to those who are raised the right way. To those who are not, it becomes hopeless.

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  19. This conversation needs to unpack the meaning of faith. And who decides if another is faithful (full of faith)? If one has faith that there is something uniquely in the soul of man that leads to concern for the whole of others, is that enough faith? Or does one need to believe that an actual entity created the heavens and earth and all therein? And if one believes that, is it enough for the experts? Or does one also have eschew evolution? Where is enough faith found to maintain Judaism

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